Thursday, June 25, 2009

Potential and Awareness

"With the practice of functional discernment, there is a potential with this internal and external noticing in one’s awareness as we allow, accept, and notice change."  Rick Taracks ( Suggested Mental Unification Paradigms of Wujifa Practices [Part 3])


In reading this i wondered about the nature of this potential. The statement in this article written by Rick, seems to imply the actual definition of  what necessity is. Necessity, like this potential, is not the same as desire. Desire is like a loaded question. When we ask a question, we sometimes arent asking out of curiosity, but instead we ask in an attempt to do something. The key point is in the intention behind the action. The action that is born of awareness, or this noticing, is the potential as opposed to a desired outcome. 

  If i have the desire to feel, say, an ecstatic moment during my practice then the mind creates a filter of ecstasy to overlay perception. This filter which is laid over our perception is really the past. It is our memories of what we have experienced in the past, maybe an ecstatic moment, and we try and achieve this. Trying, which is desire, is based upon illusion. The illusion is the past memory that we are searching for in the now. Sometimes it is easy to get caught up in desire, and we then have so many filters distorting our perception that it is quite difficult to be aware of anything besides what we are searching for. That is why this is a delicate thing. On one end we have this desire, this searching, this trying, and on the other end there is this other thing which is really the result of not having these thoughts, these desires. Awareness is therefore not something that can be striven for. To see something new is not the product of our desire, but it is, essentially, what comes as a result of the filters not being there. 

  This potential is the byproduct of being aware, of noticing. It is as J Krishnamurti would say, something that comes uninvited. Allowing, noticing change, is not doing something. It is actually quite the opposite. I feel it is very important to understand the difference between the two types of intention. We have intention that is born of desire, and we have intention that is the byproduct of being aware, and in that awareness is the potential, is the energy.  There, there is no separation between action and intention, there is no gap. The awareness is the energy for doing. We have created a distance from the now by striving for things, which is really only us meeting the present with the past.

  When i was younger i remember there was a concept that was talked about often in the martial arts, but i dont hear it as much today... the art of effortless power. It seems as though this concept has been lost to empty idealism and has faded away a bit. But to understand the principle of effortless power we can see that when we consider this on a deeper level, the arrow points towards the nature of intention. Physically, externally, we can see that the principle sounds a bit silly, but at this other level there is something of interest. The question of intention lies in putting the cart before the horse; is intention born of desire, or is a byproduct of noticing, of being aware, which does not imply thought, or strife, but a passive, alive mind that has silence, and therefore is capable of noticing.



14 comments:

  1. This is Rick from wujifaliangong.blogspot.com

    Gödel's incompleteness theorem(s) is something I seem to return to often...

    When you said "The question of intention lies in putting the cart before the horse; is intention born of desire, or is a byproduct of noticing, of being aware, which does not imply thought, or strife, but a passive, alive mind that has silence, and therefore is capable of noticing.

    I like how your posting here explores these concepts as having the possibility of being different systems...

    Gödel's incompleteness theorem(s)... They Rock... I google them often and see what byproducts show up as I explore there too...

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  2. Cool, ok. Sounds interesting. Im going to check that out. Thanks.

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  3. Everything we do is motivated. Buddha had a desire- to sit under the tree and meditate until he found his understanding. He didn't know what this understanding was going to be, he was willing to wait for it. The point is not to not have a desire, but be open enough to see that you have gotten what you wanted all along when you get it.

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  4. I dont disagree, everything we do is motivated, the question i am exploring is 'where does that motivation come from?'. Not wanting desire is still a desire right? It would be silly to say, 'strive for desireless-ness'. I cant say much about 'the point', but what i can say is that putting the cart in front of the horse is separation. If you choose to put the cart in front of the horse it can cause trouble, but either way, you may ask, was it the awareness that spawned the intention to do so, or was the old pattern doing the looking through comparison. In other words, was it born of fear of being open and therefore not able to see anything new, cause its really just the desire for the past, the pattern? Or is the motivation the byproduct of noticing something new, which can only come with a silent mind? Do you see what i mean? The motivation that comes with thought must be limited, it is pattern based because it is the past and the extent of thought can only reach so far and be combined in so many ways; it is limited to the conscious and subconscious perceptions that are in memory. Anything that comes from the past must be limited, we can have an awareness of thought, but nothing from thought is capable of being truly new. Only when thought is silent can something that is truly new come about. Thats why it is said that awareness of the limits of thought is the awakening of intelligence.

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  6. Sorry, i removed that, i wanted to stay on topic.

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  7. I agree, but I've personally tried to give up desire before that action was motivated by my awareness, and so vilification of "desire" in any form kind of rubs me the wrong way. I liked in your response how you spoke directly to the "how" aspect of motivation, and a curiosity for where it comes from (or could come from). Motivation from awareness, like you suggest, leads to the fulfillment of that awareness, and motivation from habit, leads to a fulfillment of that habit.

    You spoke of desire and intention as different things in your initial post, it would help me to hear how you view the difference, I have an idea what you mean, but I'd like to hear from you.

    I know there's a good foundation behind your post, it seems to be based on the ideas of people who have come before, and things you've learned, as interpreted by your awareness and experience, just as what I write is a product of mine, and what I have read and studied.

    Anyway, I'm on this mini rant, but I've thought a lot about this stuff, and it means a lot to me.

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  8. Ah ok, maybe i wasnt so clear. The words are not so important. We have intention that stems from two different areas. One is a means of escape(like escaping from a feeling that you may not want to feel); any time you move away from these feelings you end up only burying them deeper, which is really holding on to them, prolonging them. This action of moving in any direction is an action that must be limited, because now i am striving for something that isnt what it is that i am feeling; instead i am striving for something that comes from memory ie my ideas i have of happiness for example. This is the desire that i am speaking of. Our language doesnt have a clear distinction for this. The other intention is difficult for me to talk about unless we use the example of burning your hand on the stove. When we see something clearly, such as the fire burning our hand there is no time for striving, there is no movement going on that is separate from the action. Unlike in the other case, where we are separating ourselves from our pain psychologically. One intention is unified, and the other is divided. One intention is the result of separation, and the other is not divided. The escape is the division. And that escape is limited because it is based upon our preconception of what it means to be free, which is not truly freedom, but a representation of freedom that we are striving for.

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  9. This Rick from wujifaliangong.blogspot.com

    "All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become" Buddha 562-483 B.C.

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  10. Yes, "What we think we become." So what happens when thought is silent? Can it be silent? Who is there when thought is silent? If thought is everything, then that would leave little room for awareness, for awareness is not thought. Isnt thought simply the past being rearranged in the present?

    This is not an attack on thought, but an inquiry as to its placement. When is thought functional and healthy? And when is thought a problem? We have so much importance placed on thought, when thought is the result of being aware. If i am completely lost in thought how can there be anything new? It would simply mean the past is being re-arranged and therefore limited.

    In one area thought is healthy; like the search for logs to build a raft to get to the other side of the river. But when we bring this same function into another area, say my girlfriend breaks up with me, and i have these ideas of happiness, like the logs for the plan to cross the river, but instead now it is to become happy (which is the illusion i have created of what i believe happiness is based upon the past) then there is trouble because the mind is trying to run from what it feels, of what it truly is, which may be sadness, which may be pain, hurt.

    So we are taught to strive when we feel sadness, to use our will to become the illusory ideas that we have created from thought that are really the past. And we have this idea of strife to become psychologically. So what would happen if there was no desire to become something else when we feel insignificant? If when we felt hurt, there was no ignoring that, but instead there was listening. Because when we listen to that pain arent we then able to feel that thing which is there for a reason?

    We are told to run to happiness when we feel hurt, and i am questioning that. Cause i have done this my whole life and have seen that it only buries and prolongs that pain that i chose not to feel. I have striven to become like my uncle, my heroes, my ideas of nobility, and have created this self that i am striving to become because of the pain that i am unwilling to feel; this insignificance. I have been taught to strive when i feel insignificant, and to use this same function the mind uses to build the raft to get the food on the other side of the river in this other area. It works perfectly healthy in this one area, but in this other area, this same function is prolonging pain, is prolonging and burying feelings because it is based upon stiving for the illusion, the ideal of this self to become. This self is not the truth, the truth is i have pain, but i have been taught to strive for happiness when i feel pain, and now i am questioning that. I am questioning bringing this perfectly logical function of the brain into this other area of the psych. Cause it has only lead me to more suffering.

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  11. Hahahah, half joking, half serious, i present this other quote from buddha..

    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. "

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  12. This is Rick from http://wujifaliangong.blogspot.com

    attention is different than intention
    focus (as a nominalization) and focusing (activity)
    these are accessed differently... where something begins and what is noticed can be very different too.

    I like the old NLP question "How do you know?"

    Then again as you know I tend to lean more toward... functional...

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  13. Yes, i like how you put it, "attention is different than intention".


    "I like the old NLP question "How do you know?" "

    I like how you summarized this. I only know things in relation to other things that i know.

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  14. Like this thought: "we ask in an attempt to do something"
    I just realized that we attempt to know the real story of someone/something, with a desire inside to contribute or help=)

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